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    Писане by smile on Нед Ное 13, 2011 9:31 pm

    New book exposes Jackson's secrets



    BOOK REVEAL: A personal assistant-turned-personal manager to Michael Jackson said the King of Pop had been taking propofol as early as 1999


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    Писане by andeli on Нед Ное 13, 2011 10:47 pm

    Много ми е интересно как всички "приятели" на Майкъл започнаха да пишат книги? Да, вероятно имат какво да ни кажат, но защо, по дяволите не си затворят ш..те плювалници и не си оставят знанието със себе си?
    Как някои хора могат и една думичка да не казват, а някои не спират по "приятелски" да разказват сякаш с чувството за всесилни и всезнаещи?!
    Този човек им даде толкова много!!! Кой щеше да е Касио, ако не беше Майкъл? От 5 годишен е под крилото му, а сега съвсем благородно и по приятелски си издава книжката и ще очаква и събира печалби на гърба на човек, който вече не може да се защитити. Толкова е грозно. Има неща, които трябва да се оставят там, където са и да не се вадят на показ. Напълно достатъчно е онова, което света знае и научи за Майкъл. Какво още ще споделят "приятелите" му и "загрижените" му роднини, които винаги са го търсили и ползвали само за едно - Пари.
    Щом имаш такива приятели, врагове не са ти нужни.


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    Писане by smile on Пон Ное 14, 2011 1:27 am

    Казах Без коментар,но по повод на книгата на Касио, ще кажа само това-Ние феновете не би трябва да се тревожим за нищо.
    Нито кой какво ще каже, нито от това, кой какво ще напише.
    Ние познаваме Майкъл и го обичаме такъв какъвто е.
    Всичко останало е без значение.


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    Писане by andeli on Пон Ное 14, 2011 3:06 pm

    Не си права, защото, когато обичаш някой искаш той да не бъде нараняван. Аз лично не се вълнувам кой колко глупости ще каже за Майкъл, но ми е неприятно като започнат да го наричат как ли не хора, които грам не го познават. Стана ми грозно как човек, който му беше толкова близък го предава. Това е.


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    Писане by smile on Пон Ное 14, 2011 5:10 pm

    Ако става дума за истината съм права.
    Ако става дума за лъжи по нечий адрес, не съм.


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    Писане by andeli on Пон Ное 14, 2011 5:44 pm

    Хайде тогава да го погледнем така - приятно ли ще ти бъде, ако аз утре предам доверието ти и започна да печеля на твой гръб?!
    Не е въпроса до истината. Аз не съм от хората, които са заровили глава в пясъка и я отричат. Въпроса е колко е пошло да я изложиш на показ и да се облагодетелстваш от нея. Това е лично, по дяволите! Никой не иска децата му да разбират в детайли за паденията му. А, когато те се поднасят от приятел - боли. Какво е значението от кога, колко и как Майкъл е имал "срещи" с Деморола или Пропофола. И защо "добрия" приятел си е мълчал?! Така ли се постъпва? Или като Елизабет? Сега се сетих за едно стихотворение, което Г. Христов изпя:

    Приятели
    Рашко Стойков

    Нямам нужда от много приятели.
    Стигат ми двама –трима,
    Ала такива, че в сърцата им
    рани от моите болки да има.
    В моите редки и трудни празници
    техните песни да пея,
    ала такива, че жалба ли кряка,
    гръм ли удари, свят ли помръкне
    даже и в гроба да знаеш,
    че някой рови земята да те измъкне...

    Това са те ПРИЯТЕЛИТЕ. Има си етика, мамка му!


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    Писане by smile on Пон Ное 14, 2011 8:29 pm

    Аз си изказах мнението по въпроса в първия си пост, мисля достатъчно ясно.Имам това право.Нищо повече.


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    Писане by andeli on Пон Ное 14, 2011 9:08 pm

    ОК, разбира се, че имаш това право
    Бях забравила, че в този форум трудно се разговаря или спори Sorry, че наруших статуквото. Продължавам с монолозите си занапред.
    smile, думите ми не са отправени персонално към теб.


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    Писане by smile on Сря Ное 16, 2011 4:04 pm

    Да видим тoзи филм положителен ли ще бъде?

    Michael Jackson estate thrills to biopic

    Estate has approached Reitman and Pollock's Montecito Picture Company

    By Jeff Sneider



    Michael Jackson's estate wants to be starting something in Hollywood: a King of Pop biopic.

    With Dr. Conrad Murray's involuntary manslaughter trial now over, John Branca, the executor of the Jackson estate, has approached Ivan Reitman and Tom Pollock's Montecito Picture Company about the possibility of producing and financing a Jackson biopic. Project would only cover certain periods of the late singer's life.

    Pollock confirmed that the two sides are engaged in early talks but cautioned that there is no deal in place.

    A spokesman for Jackson's estate had no comment.

    The estate is currently focused on Cirque du Soleil's "Michael Jackson: The Immortal World Tour," so there is no rush to get the movie into production. However, the fact that the estate is keen to pay tribute to Michael on the bigscreen should have Hollywood agents salivating, as it could be a plum part for an actor. Music-themed biopics "Ray" and "Walk the Line" have provided Oscar-winning roles for Jamie Foxx and Reese Witherspoon, respectively.

    Should Montecito close a deal to make the movie, a Jackson biopic would showcase a different style of material than the company is known for.

    The shingle launched in 2000 with Todd Phillips' debut feature "Road Trip" and went on to produce successful comedies including Phillips' "Old School" and John Hamburg's "I Love You, Man." In recent years, Montecito has focused on higher-brow fare such as Jason Reitman's "Up in the Air" and Atom Egoyan's "Chloe."

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    Писане by andeli on Чет Ное 17, 2011 3:17 pm

    Frank Cascio 'My Friend Michael': Michael Jackson's Friend Reveals Intimate Stories In New Book



    Frank Cascio met Michael Jackson in 1984, when the King of Pop was at the peak of his career. For the next 25 years Cascio and his family traveled the world with the superstar. When he was 18, Cascio became Jackson's assistant and then went on to manage the star.

    In the new book "My Friend Michael," Cascio writes honestly and candidly of his long relationship with Jackson, including sticking by him during some dark periods like Jackson's child molestation charges and prescription drug use. It's a fascinating glimpse into Jackson's world and what emerges is a new, unexplored side to the entertainer -- a surprisingly sweet and normal version of the controversial star.

    How did you meet Michael?

    When I was four years old, my father was the general manager of the Helmsley Palace in New York and Michael became very friendly with my father. After they established a relationship, Michael wanted to meet the rest of the family, so one day my father took me to work to meet him. I had no idea who he was.

    Your family became very close with Michael. You and your brother went on tour with him and your family celebrated holidays with him. How did your personal relationship with him grow?

    We established a real friendship. We became a big family; Michael was a part of our family. Every Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthday -- we made a point to celebrate together. It became tradition for all of us.

    You went to work for him when you were 18 and you write that you witnessed some of his problems with pills.

    There were times. When I first started working with him, in Munich, he fell 50 feet [when] there was a mishap during a concert. That took a tremendous toll on his back. When you're in pain, doctors give you medication. There were times when I was a bit concerned. I definitely witnessed some of it but it wasn't a constant pattern -- I want to make that clear. It was based on what was going on in his life, his schedules, but yes, there were times when I was concerned.

    His family tried to stage an intervention.

    Yes, there was a time when his family wanted to speak with him. Michael just didn't want to have any conversations about it.

    How did the first molestation charges against Michael affect him?

    That really, really hurt him because he was falsely accused of something he did not do. It really comes down to [Jordy Chandler's] family's manipulation and the father's jealousy. It was really sad. The whole world got a false impression of Michael. Something that was so beautiful -- Michael's innocence and affection for children -- got completely turned around. He was so passionate about helping kids and it was turned around and used against him.

    You and your brother slept in his room hundreds of times.

    There was nothing sexual about it at all.

    But now as an adult, do you realize it wasn't normal behavior?

    From the outside looking in, I completely understand how people might think that's strange or weird or inappropriate. I can absolutely see that side of it, but it was a different situation. Michael was a different person. You can't compare Michael to anyone else in this world because he sincerely was a child at heart. He was truly a special individual. But I can tell you there was never anything inappropriate. He had no sexual attraction to children. Children were his inspiration.

    You write that he once had a fling with a fan.

    He was very flirtatious with fans. I remember once seeing him in the back of a car kissing a fan.

    Even though you two were extraordinarily close, you also had a falling out with him. What happened?

    It was due to a lack of communication during the second [molestation] trial. Michael was told false information that I did not wish to testify on his behalf -- which really hurt him -- and that was never ever the case. I was more than willing to testify on Michael's behalf. I was an unindicted co-conspirator, so we were legally not allowed to be in constant communication. There was a lot of jealousy on behalf of the people who were working with him at the time. They didn't want me back and they tried everything in their power to make sure I did not get back and start working with Michael again. It really hurt because I would do anything for Michael.

    You say that at the end of his life, he acknowledged his perilous financial situation.

    He acknowledged to me that things had to change and we were in the process of putting an incredible machine in place with great people to turn everything around. At one point he had some bad advisors advising him. I'm very happy that John Branca is one of the trustees [of Jackson's trust] because, through their ups and downs, he was always great to Michael. He always did the right thing by Michael.

    Did it break your heart hearing the recordings of Michael that Dr. Conrad Murray made?

    The fact that this man would even record him in that [medicated] state... It's just wrong. You just don't do that. You don't take advantage of someone when they're in that state of mind. It's so sad because if you listen to what he's saying, he's truly concerned about children. He's talking about building a children's hospital. It was so dear to his heart.

    One of the things that comes most through the book is how much he loved being a father.

    He was the greatest father in the world. I don't think I've ever seen somebody prepare for fatherhood like he did. He was a surrogate father to myself and my brothers and sisters. The amount of books that he read on parenting... He wanted to be the greatest father in the world and he achieved that. I can't properly explain how amazing a father he was. He loved his children more than life itself.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/frank-cascio-my-friend-michael_n_1098123.html


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    Писане by L.O.V.E. MJ on Чет Ное 17, 2011 4:05 pm

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45285587#45285587

    Разходка из дома на Майкъл...


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    Писане by andeli on Пет Ное 18, 2011 6:11 pm

    Така. Ревю на книгата на Франк Касио от ivy от MJJC. След като прочетох определено знам, че това ще е следващата ми покупка. Може би не бях права да съдя така остро Франк и знам, че той не би искал да нарани Майкъл, но наистина си помислих, че го представя в светлина, която никой от нас не иска да бъде представян.
    Ще я прочета с интерес, защото е писна от човек, който 25 години е бил невероятно близо до Майкъл.

    just finished the book. This is my review

    Must buy - but don't expect an all laughs fairy tale

    Before I go into details, there's something that everyone should understand about this book. As Frank mentions in the prologue this book is about Michael Jackson - the man and not Michael Jackson - the superstar. This book is about the decades long friendship - with ups and downs- Michael and Frank had. Also realize that Frank has a different perception of Michael than we all do. To Frank Cascio , Michael Jackson is the person that he met as a kid without knowing who he was, who turned to a person that helped with his homework, to a father figure and then a friend; a friend that he laughed, worked, cried, shared and even argued at times.

    As a long time fan I have also read almost every single book, article, magazine (and even court documents) and watched every documentary, news show etc about Michael. So as I was already knowledgeable about most things, many of the newer books and documentaries didn't offer much "new" stuff to me. I knew them all and they even became boring (how many times do we need to hear the Motown story, honestly?). Frank's book was refreshing in this regard. Although we all know the main events, the details mentioned in the book are new and make it an interesting read. That alone made me satisfied with my purchase.

    Frank's book is divided into 3 categories : the time he spent with Michael as a child, the time period when he worked for Michael and the allegations period &later years. Each part has a different tone and their relationship differs between these time periods as well.

    The time period when he was a child (from age 4 to till he was 16-18) is perhaps the most fun part of the book. Frank details his experiences with Michael and they are all inspiring to say the least. They will surely put a smile on your face. Frank also tells about Chandler's, his interactions with Michael and what he said about his father Evan - and paints the picture of a jealous father going after Michael. Although Michael went through the emotional and physical toll of the 1993 allegations and dealt with drug issues, Frank's realization about such issues are minimal as he was only a 13 year old kid at the time.

    The time period when Frank worked (officially or unofficially) for Michael is the time period (1999 - 2003) that their relationship evolved to be a lot more closer, well due to the fact that Frank now was an adult and what Michael shared with an adult versus a child obviously was different and Frank was spending a lot more time with Michael and he wasn't a guest anymore. From this time period the book details 1999 bridge accident, recording of Invincible, heal the kids charitable efforts, troubles with Sony, MTV award fiasco, Living with Michael Jackson documentary, the rebuttal videos, MJ Private home movies and Arvizos. In this part Frank wonderfully details and explains the Arvizo's , their relationship with Michael, what actually went on and how calculated Janet Arvizo was.

    Final part details the after second allegations, the trial, the falling out and the making up they experienced.

    I will try to answer some common questions and concerns in this part

    - Although Frank and his family shared a 25 year friendship with Michael, it doesn't mean he told them anything and everything. Frank openly states that when he wanted to keep something private, he simply did. Also what Michael shared with him changes according to his age and whether they had a friendship or a working relationship.

    - Frank doesn't write the book in an ultimate indisputable truth format, on the contrary he writes what Michael told him, what he believed, what other people said etc. He clearly identifies what is his opinion. As the reader you are left to your devices to make up your mind to believe whatever you want.

    - As everyone knows, drugs are mentioned in the book. And it refers to the 1999 -2001 period when Frank was working for Michael. Any drug use / issues that Michael might have prior to 1999 is unknown to Frank and the rest of the Cascios. Frank witnesses what he now believes to be Propofol at 1999 Munich and 2001 New York. Painkillers especially Demerol seem to be a lot more concern to him. He clearly states that Michael wasn't junkie and he was in terrible pain. The only thing that can be seen "negative" by some is that Frank on occasion questions if Michael's pain was physical or emotional - and therefore if the drugs were really needed. However as you read on Michael's emotional pain and what he had to go through is detailed and his emotional pain is also justified. What the media didn't tell you is that Frank blames doctors for not solving Michael's issues and simply prescribing him drugs. You also weren't told Frank's physical confrontation with doctors. Furthermore Frank tells that later in 2001/ 2002 Michael was working with doctors to solve his chronic pain issues and getting off the drugs. Media also failed to mention that the last time they spent considerable amount of time with Michael in 2007, he wasn't taking any drugs or even drinking alcohol. So you weren't given the full picture of Frank saying this was a period in his life that had physical and emotional pain and that Michael recovered from it and got rid off the drugs. In short Michael wasn't an addict - and isn't portrayed like one in the book.

    - Michael's paranoia is also explained as a result of the allegations and business people around him taking advantage of him. More and more Michael becomes unable to trust people and becomes skeptical and even paranoid. It's all because of the people around Michael taking advantage of him and even lying to hurt him. It's his defense mechanism. This is also explained clearly.

    - Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie isn't portrayed as fake. Their love, respect, trust is mentioned over and over again. Arab Prince is a story that Michael told a 13 year old Frank , media failed to tell you that Cascio's didn't believe that explanation and believed Michael married Lisa because he wanted to have family and children. As you read the book you learn more that Michael wasn't a man of confrontation and explanations and you think perhaps that was a story he came up with (and used multiple times) so that he wouldn't have to explain himself.

    - Downs of his relationship with Michael is also mentioned. According to Frank people have said to Michael that Frank took money / throwbacks for setting up meetings with Michael and that some people he invited to Neverland has been problematic. These issues are resolved rather quickly sometimes even within minutes. Frank also experiences issues with some of Michael's employees after he started working with Michael and there was some animosity.

    One major issue that goes on for a long time and Michael calls a betrayal is Michael's belief that Frank refused to testify on behalf of Michael during the 2005 trial. Frank details his story : after Michael's arraignment T-Mez and Frank's lawyer tells Frank to cease any contact with Michael (because if he was called to testify they wanted him to be able to say they had no contact), DA offers Frank immunity to testify against Michael - Frank refuses, Frank's lawyer maintains communication with T-Mez, Frank tells T-Mez what he knows. Initially T-Mez planned to call Frank towards the end of the defense case but then as the testimony goes on T-Mez says he doesn't need Frank to testify, they had achieved reasonable doubt and he doesn't want Frank's 20 year relationship with Michael to be opened up to cross examination.

    Frank starts hearing from his family and Michael's family (Auggie) that Michael believed that he betrayed him. Frank equally gets angry to Michael for believing he would betray him. Although they start talking in 2006, they do not discuss this issue until August 2007 and kiss and make up. Michael says "someone" told him that Frank wouldn't testify and to this day Frank doesn't know who that was. They maintain a friendship after this.

    - Some fans called this book depressing. It has its funny moments and moments that you can't help but smile to the antics of Michael we all know and love but at times it's also sad. I believe this to be expected as it covers 1993 allegations, 1999 bridge fall, 2001 Sony Events, 2003 allegations and 2005 trial. Simply put : those weren't happy times and it's impossible for the book to be cheery about such topics.

    - Invasion of Michael's privacy was also been a concern for the fans but honestly I haven't seen reason for such concerns. Most of the book is about the details of the public business and life events of Michael that we all know. I personally didn't find that Michael loved women, kissed them, had crushes on them and been intimate with them as problematic. It was tastefully written, no details was given and to me was no different than musicians worked with Michael mentioning women and Diddy mentioning Michael came to his party to meet with Beyonce. The pot story - that Michael tried pot because Barry Gibbs told him he wrote his best songs after smoking pot - was so rock'n roll. Also after Murray trial I don't think Michael's history with Demerol and/or Propofol was private either. Probably if alive Michael wouldn't discuss the women in his life and his experimentation with pot but the mention of them wasn't alarming to me.

    What was the best parts of the book?

    - Michael Jackson the father as always a wonderful thing to read. Michael was also a father to Cascio kids and Omer. His interactions with his kids make you feel happy and love him more. That parts of the book was the one that most stood out actually. I believe that might be the strongest point this book makes.

    - Michael Jackson the teacher is also unbelievable. His life lessons to Cascios and his kids, his love for the books, his philosophy is a must must must read for every Michael Jackson fan.

    - Frank's first hand witness account of Chandlers and Arvizos is also very valuable information for all.

    In the end you'll laugh (such as : peach cobbler, Mr. Donald Duck, Gary the driver, Michael choosing what to wear, Michael's pranks) and you'll get sad (such as allegations, how media treated Michael). Overall it's a good read that I recommend to everyone. Just realize it's about Michael Jackson the man, not the Michael Jackson the superstar or Michael Jackson the perfect saint.


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    Писане by smile on Пет Ное 18, 2011 6:20 pm

    хубаво е че запя друга песен...xD


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    Писане by andeli on Пет Ное 18, 2011 6:44 pm

    Ами тогава най - вероятно бяха извадили думите му от контекста и ми изглеждаше много грубо и грозно.

    Мен друго ме загложди сега. Франк е споделил, че Майкъл му е казал:

    "Don't ever write a book on my life or you'll be in trouble"

    Що така? Имаше и вероятно има предположения, че той казва: не "on my life", а "when I'm alive", което малко ме обърква и ми е трудно да го коментирам, заради съвсем различния смисъл на двете словосъчетания.


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    Вероятно е първото./"on my life/
    Второто е нелогично./казано за момента/

    И да, прав е Майкъл да му каже така...
    Виждам как феновете скачат като попарени от споменаването на някой подробности от личния му живот.
    Истината е, че скачат защото не им е приятно и не им изнася да е така.Иначе нямаше да го правят.

    Аз съм за това, да се говори истината такава каквато е без недомлъвки и спестяване на факти.Защото не виждам нищо, което мен лично да ме притеснява от биографията на Майкъл.

    Считам че приятелите са И за това, да виждат нещата от страни и да казват не само хубавите, но и нещата които не им харесват.
    Съвсем друг е въпроса когато недоброжелатели говорят лъжи и клевети и съсипват живота на някого..


    ...и не ми се спори за нищо, защото съм била винаги твърдо убедена в това.


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    Писане by andeli on Пет Ное 18, 2011 9:20 pm

    Не, не го приемай като спор, а като разговор.

    Казано честно днес се начетох на луди фенове и ми стана смешно как могат да си позволяват да казват неща от сорта на: "Майкъл не би харесал това. Точка." Странно ми е кои са те и колко добре познават идола си, че да правят изказвания от подобен тип? Отхвърлянето на почти всяка излязла книга, документален филм, защото авторът им по някакъв начин на тях не им харесва наистина граничи с пълно истерясване. Мнения от типа на: "Не, това е лъжа" също. Не може някой си да казва, че нещо е лъжа след като и минута не е прекарал с Майкъл. Отхвърлят се думи на брат, сестра, защото те били търсели само комерсиалното и материална изгода. А те от къде знаят? Пълно е с луди фенове и това е факт. Силно се надявам да не съм от тях!

    Предполагам, че Майкъл приживе е бил съвсем наясно с ролята си в съвременния свят и в това, че ще бъде обект на всякакви посегателства над личността му и живота му/и беше/. Той си е бил и беше поел този кръст и си го износи с достойнство.

    Моето заставане на позиция да не се злоупотребява с името му си остава обаче, но няма как да знаем кога това се случва.
    Друг е въпроса, че и аз като любопитен консуматор искам да знам още и още. Това е логично и напълно неоспоримо.
    Скоро ще си поръчам книгата и предполагам, че ще я прочета с удоволствие.


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    Писане by smile on Чет Дек 08, 2011 6:57 pm

    Какво са 26$ в сравнение с книгата която отчаяно много искам да имам и която изобщо не мога да си помисля че ще имам някога, за изключително скромната сума от $7,500. :boohoo



    http://www.businessinsider.com/dear-michael-book-rocks-with-swarovski-studded-michael-jackson-portrait-2011-12





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    Писане by andeli on Чет Дек 08, 2011 7:12 pm

    Е, това бижу би било нещо, което всеки фен заслужава да има. Но, уви, малцина ще са щастливците да притежават една от 2000те бройки.


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    Писане by L.O.V.E. MJ on Пет Дек 09, 2011 9:14 am

    Незнам кое е по-голямото бижу - камъните отвън или страниците вътре...За мен са страниците king


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    Писане by smile on Пет Дек 09, 2011 4:01 pm

    Разбира се, че са страниците.Само ако са написани вярно и точно.

    Very Happy Портрета можеше да го направят с речни камъни, сахарски пясък или стъкалцата от обикновен джам и пак щеше да блести.
    Пфу...как ме е яд..


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    Писане by andeli on Сря Яну 04, 2012 10:30 pm



    A New Book About Michael Jackson

    "If you want an eye-opening portrayal of the real Michael Jackson- delivered in a rare blend of disclosure, respect, insight, and passion-- this is it!"
    -- Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr.


    http://defendingaking.com/


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    Писане by L.O.V.E. MJ on Пон Яну 09, 2012 12:57 pm

    andeli написа:

    A New Book About Michael Jackson

    "If you want an eye-opening portrayal of the real Michael Jackson- delivered in a rare blend of disclosure, respect, insight, and passion-- this is it!"
    -- Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr.


    http://defendingaking.com/

    Тази изглежда да е от стойностните книги за Майкъл.


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